tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post6924811408568131362..comments2024-03-27T23:06:28.849+13:00Comments on Matte Shot - a tribute to Golden Era special fx: Kubricks' 2001: One Mans Incredible Odyssey NZPetehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13863364769084676156noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-9354471532763805852022-09-01T17:54:27.573+12:002022-09-01T17:54:27.573+12:00Hi Jonathan,
I thank you sincerely for your appre...Hi Jonathan,<br /><br />I thank you sincerely for your appreciative comments on my article. I'm so pleased quite a number of readers found it to their liking.<br /><br />Your remarks about the 'temp music' were most interesting. I'm not sure I was aware of that!<br /><br />I'm still irked that Stanley's ego got in the way of proper Oscar recognition to the ACTUAL sfx supervisors (or 3 of them at least, which was the maximum the Academy would allow at the time).<br /><br />Still a masterpiece, and even though it bored me when I first saw it in the early 70's, it now just gets better and better with each viewing. Flawless.<br /><br />PeteNZPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863364769084676156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-57856784529448466002022-09-01T07:24:59.142+12:002022-09-01T07:24:59.142+12:00
Greetings from the other side of our small planet...<br />Greetings from the other side of our small planet, <br />Although I own a very costly book covering the production of this film, your blog, with its amazing collection of photos, particularly those “behind the scenes” images, is unprecedented in its comprehensiveness. Having seen this film when it premiered in 1968 (without any hallucinogens on board!), I remain awed by its beauty, though still uncertain as to the significance of the final scenes involving the aging and rebirth of the protagonist. In the end, it never really bothered me to not fully understand the plot. Your documentation of the exacting special effects work, all without the use of CGI, is something that will remain a lasting tribute to the brilliance and ingenuity of Mssrs. Veevers, Trumbull, Pederson, and others in the crew. What is also quite interesting is the use of the Strauss waltzes and Ligeti pieces. Mr. Kubrick used them initially as temporary tracks to accompany the leisurely pace of editing he felt was called for to depict the grand movements of the spaceships. In the process, poor Alex North, a composer of considerable renown, and hired for this film, was informed late in his preparation of the music by Mr. Kubrick that it was un-needed! It was decades later that this injustice was partially remedied by a fellow composer, Jerry Goldsmith, initiating the recording of the North score on a Varese Sarabande CD. I own it, but after so many years and viewings of the film without that score, it’s really difficult to imagine the movie without those “temporary” tracks. <br /><br />Congratulations on an absolutely superb article. One last thing- over 10 years ago we were lucky enough to travel to New Zealand, and enjoy the beauties of your fantastic country and its people, including Auckland. Jonathan Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-21728783905576676012021-07-03T18:00:18.681+12:002021-07-03T18:00:18.681+12:00Pete....Found this amazing article of yours again....Pete....Found this amazing article of yours again...."2001-" is just a mind blower, and all those amazing spacecraft looking so REAL !!!....the NASA heads saw it and apparently thot the "SPACE STATION 5" was just too expensive for them, so 50 years later we all look back and see what we got for the BILLION$ the Pentagon dumped into the Stupid Vietnam War....58,000 dead young American men, and over twice that in dead Vietnamese men, women and children, and their country bombed to hell....so now in 2021 and BILLION$ more dumped into the Stupid Iraq and Afghan Wars, and we STILL dont even have a simple rotational-gravity space station !!!HipsterCat77https://www.blogger.com/profile/06827451040472647442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-87352804258220551192021-01-15T04:31:49.472+13:002021-01-15T04:31:49.472+13:00I am a 2001 devotee, saw it in 71 as a 12 year old...I am a 2001 devotee, saw it in 71 as a 12 year old...and have seen it 50+ times since.<br />Of course, after so many viewings, there are some points that bug me...<br />1. The Aeries cockpit being on the top of the craft, but the crew being able to see the moon while landing. ( Already covered here)<br />2. The bone throwing shot...it has a very bad edit for such a simple shot of the bone rising vertically...I am surprised that it was never corrected.Alan St Clairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06267183137059229197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-38697388860751481612019-10-08T11:33:52.787+13:002019-10-08T11:33:52.787+13:00I like reading through a post that will make peopl...I like reading through a post that will make people think.<br />Also, many thanks for permitting me to comment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-46917759282588722692019-10-06T15:02:27.038+13:002019-10-06T15:02:27.038+13:00This film is on my Top One List. And I lately lear...This film is on my Top One List. And I lately learn of a related exhibition reaching Stateside in mid-January through mid-July 2020, at the Museum of the Moving Image (MoMI) in Astoria, Queens, New York (City).John Fraracciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14050131223158916773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-17799175484052324642019-07-04T19:35:57.994+12:002019-07-04T19:35:57.994+12:00I believe everything posted made a bunch of sense....I believe everything posted made a bunch of sense. However, think about this, suppose you wrote a catchier post title?<br /><br />I ain't saying your information is not solid., however what if <br />you added something to possibly get a person's attention? I mean "Kubricks' 2001: One Mans Incredible Odyssey" <br />is kinda plain. You should glance at Yahoo's home page and watch how they create article <br />titles to grab viewers to open the links. You might try <br />adding a video or a related picture or two to grab people excited <br />about everything've written. In my opinion, it would bring your website <br />a little livelier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-10024123324744806542018-05-29T09:22:02.072+12:002018-05-29T09:22:02.072+12:00Thanks very interesting blog!Thanks very interesting blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-75708287450842967142018-05-25T04:24:54.932+12:002018-05-25T04:24:54.932+12:00Have you ever thouught aout adding a little bit mo...Have you ever thouught aout adding a little bit more than just your articles?<br /><br />I mean, hat you say is valuable and everything. However think <br />about if yyou added some great visuals or videos to give your posts more, <br />"pop"! Your content is excellent but with images and <br />videos, this site could undeniably bbe one oof the very best in its niche.<br />Terrific blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-39325860242466346762018-05-19T21:40:38.108+12:002018-05-19T21:40:38.108+12:00Howdy just wanted to give you a quick heads up. Th...Howdy just wanted to give you a quick heads up. The text in your content seem <br />to be running off the screen in Chrome. I'm not sure if this <br />is a format issue or something to do with browser compatibility but I figured I'd post to let <br />you know. The style and design look great though! Hope you get <br />the problem solved soon. ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-51629258055822967642018-03-26T05:38:49.264+13:002018-03-26T05:38:49.264+13:00Awesome article.Awesome article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-16382454515850504422016-09-20T10:27:22.687+12:002016-09-20T10:27:22.687+12:00Thanks for the extraordinary blog which compliment...Thanks for the extraordinary blog which compliments Agel's book, Cinefex # 85 and the recent Taschen book. If I may point out one discrepancy -- the low angle shot of Moonwatcher smashing the bones is not front projection, but rather a completely authentic cloud background. This shot was made on a raised platform outside the studio with real cloud formations behind Richter. This, and the falling bone are the only exterior shots in the whole film to the best of my knowledge.Steven Austinhttp://www.lunamotion.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-10034887125107938492016-07-24T18:03:24.721+12:002016-07-24T18:03:24.721+12:00Hi Christopher
Thanks so much for those generous ...Hi Christopher<br /><br />Thanks so much for those generous words.... it's appreciated.<br />Yes, regarding the shot you speak of, you are absolutely correct. Several fans have pointed that out to me...thanks.<br /><br />PeteNZPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863364769084676156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-75509583303867150962016-07-24T01:31:31.888+12:002016-07-24T01:31:31.888+12:00This is beautifully done - meticulous and beautifu...This is beautifully done - meticulous and beautifully written. The images you found have me floored. Something I've noticed, however, on several blogs, I feel, will have to be corrected. When discussing the front projection used for the Dawn Of Man sequence, the use of that slow motion, big sky low angle shot of the early man smashing the skull is incorrect. The flat, eye-level shot was in the studio, using the screen background; but the low angle looking up was done in the studio parking lot and that's the real English sky. In fact, it's the only thing shot outdoors in the entire movie.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04263336863350607464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-41277164240580014412016-02-20T19:41:57.593+13:002016-02-20T19:41:57.593+13:00Loved your site Pengobatan Kutil Kelamin Pada Pria...Loved your site <a href="http://1800801inplantes.com/pengobatan-kutil-kelamin-khusu-pria.html" rel="nofollow">Pengobatan</a> <a href="http://lidaspring.com/pengobatan-kutil-kelamian-dari-de-nature" rel="nofollow">Kutil</a> <a href="http://edacomtecnologia.com/pengobatan-kutil-kelamin-khusu-wanita.html" rel="nofollow">Kelamin</a> <a href="http://reyesandassociates.com/cara-obat-kutil-kelamin-de-nature" rel="nofollow">Pada</a> <a href="https://plus.google.com/111951783616208311688/posts/CeqNiU5EDic" rel="nofollow">Pria</a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EF0vysNjSKzOCSXIU2lhVd7ZAdHaIeGlK8O0kA-wbZ8/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">dan Wanita</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/denatureid/" rel="nofollow">Herba</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/iddenature/status/661428274371805184" rel="nofollow">de Nature</a>Agen de Nature Aslihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419738093672574368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-41988051323033301172015-05-18T11:22:19.578+12:002015-05-18T11:22:19.578+12:00Hi Will
This is the first time I've ever hear...Hi Will<br /><br />This is the first time I've ever heard of anybody claiming: "Younger people have commented on the shoddy VFX work..."<br />Perhaps those complainants are so weened on the over the top CG rubbish from the TRANSFORMERS type school of so called film making that when confronted with such intelligent, deliberate and reserved photographic effects as applied to 2001 they interpret same as "shoddy work" simply because it's not beating the viewer senseless with mind numbing repetitiveness.<br /><br />Pete<br />NZPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863364769084676156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-18310343742486950662015-05-18T04:38:38.788+12:002015-05-18T04:38:38.788+12:00To get the detail. Silent Running had a similarly ...To get the detail. Silent Running had a similarly large model for the hero ship. As to depth of field the size actually helps get a better depth of field which sounds counterintuitive. If the model was only a foot long surely you could get it all in focus easily? Yes but not for the same image size. Imagine trying to get the camera in close enough on a 50mm lens, okay that won't work, so put a 1000mm lens on and back off a bit but then the DOF drops off again to near zero. Imagine shooting a picture of a real ant full frame, then a model a foot long. One thing to remember is the DOF remains the same what ever lens size you use for the same image size, i.e. a wide angle lens will have greater DOF but a much wider angle of view. The film size can have an effect too, 65mm has less DOF, pro rata than say 16mm. The big tracking shots used it in the film, long exposure on selsyn motor controlled rigs. There is a shot of the full sized beast in the above. It was lit with arcs to look like one spot source with no fill light I believe.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161862749784617977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-31998646369266703812015-05-18T01:20:16.362+12:002015-05-18T01:20:16.362+12:00Great piece of work and lots of production still I...Great piece of work and lots of production still I hadn’t seen before. A quick geek note. I was editing a documentary on British Sci-fi a few years ago and was using 2001 footage to illustrate an interview with Arthur C. Clarke, his last interview I believe and I noticed something odd about the space station sequence. First, as has been noted by others, one shot of the station is rotating the wrong way continuity wise from the rest in the sequence. Then I realised why, on screen it appears as the camera tracking into the space station but it was actually shot in reverse. Halfway through the shot, as filmed, a section of lights goes out - doubtless the circuit blew or a bulb went but you don’t notice if the shot is reversed, i.e. you don’t see the lights coming on. I only noticed it because I was rolling back and forward as I edited. Also a note about some DVD and BluRay version. In the front projection sequences you can see the texture of the 3M material. Younger people have commented on the shoddy VFX work, it is of course the TK, DVD mastering with all the compression that adds. In the proper film release prints this was never the case they looked superb.<br />A great article. Many thanks.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11161862749784617977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-43189266385746887862015-04-08T11:51:37.589+12:002015-04-08T11:51:37.589+12:00Hey, do you have a date on when this is happening?...Hey, do you have a date on when this is happening? Is it the 21 downtown, or someplace else?kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-82378507910167393202015-04-06T02:04:30.232+12:002015-04-06T02:04:30.232+12:00Oops - clearly I meant to say Trumbull, not Ellens...Oops - clearly I meant to say Trumbull, not Ellenshaw. Prof. Chris Renaudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307228116561389698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-20993988429800962642015-04-05T02:41:22.491+13:002015-04-05T02:41:22.491+13:00My understanding was that Craig Barron had an inte...My understanding was that Craig Barron had an interest in taking on proprietorship of the vast number of transcripts and the at-that-time few audio tapes at the magazine, but that info is nearly 15 years old at this point. I recall that there was more stuff with Freeborn about hibernation makeup, but can't really help as to what-all else didn't make it into their article, except that my still-in-progress cut of the piece was about 46,000 words, about three times longer than any published piece I did for them, and nearly 20,000 words longer than my preferred cut of the STAR WARS retrospective, which lost a ton of good stuff during their editorial phase. From what I recall, the published version was pretty much along the lines of what Don had originally planned more than a decade earlier, just with 'he saids' added, with the focus on just a few participants rather than all of the interviewees (they had stuff from Les Novros that was new, and some questionable stuff from Zoran Perisic, and ... man, I don't remember anymore. kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-679261053757213172015-04-01T16:42:42.185+13:002015-04-01T16:42:42.185+13:00As always, a great article, Pete!
Like most of us...As always, a great article, Pete!<br /><br />Like most of us here, I've been fascinated with the making of this film since I saw it. (I was born the year it was released.)<br /><br />What I've never questioned until now was the need for a 54 foot model, especially in light of Ellenshaw's many comments about the difficulties of maintaining depth of field and the creative strategies employed to work within those limitations. 54 feet is 18 yards long. Did it really exist? Why did it need to be that big? Which shots used it? Was it shot in sunlight (if so, how did they acheive a reasonable black for compositing?) or inside the studio with artificial light? <br /><br />This doesn't add up for me.Prof. Chris Renaudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07307228116561389698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-75323841191245114392015-03-16T11:50:17.200+13:002015-03-16T11:50:17.200+13:00Hi Andrew
Amazing that this still survives, and i...Hi Andrew<br /><br />Amazing that this still survives, and is in such good condition. Now how much will it fetch I wonder?<br /><br />PeteNZPetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863364769084676156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-50777398902478657512015-03-16T09:18:26.363+13:002015-03-16T09:18:26.363+13:00The Aries model has surfaced and can be viewed as ...The Aries model has surfaced and can be viewed as a forthcoming auction item here;<br />http://www.icollector.com/2001-A-Spa...ttle_i21553709<br />AndrewAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10129868992176427829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7063592677187148799.post-25018262907364483392015-03-08T17:48:30.891+13:002015-03-08T17:48:30.891+13:00Great read - a local historic theater in Portland ...Great read - a local historic theater in Portland has just completed a 70mm projector fundraising effort, and they're showing 2001 as their 70mm debut in a few weeks! SO excited to see it in full glory! (no word on how old the print is though...)David Jahnsnoreply@blogger.com